Lester 發表於 2012-1-8 18:06

我想問下如果想換6sn7 係吾係一對一對咁match 就得, 吾洗4四隻match 晒?

Lester 發表於 2012-1-8 20:48

在ebay 找了很久,想問下點為之Match ?

for example:
2 Vintage Telefunken 12AX7 ECC83 Smooth Plates Stereo Tubes
Tested on a Hickok6000A:Min = 1250/1250
1925/1900
1875/1850


1925/1900
1875/1850

係咩[意思, 二隻相差 50 算吾算match ?

tvkeung 發表於 2012-1-9 02:23

在ebay 找了很久,想問下點為之Match ?

for example:



1925/1900
1875/1850

係咩[意思, 二隻相差 50 算 ...
Lester 發表於 2012-1-8 20:48 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

Tube 1 result: 1925/1900 --> The first test was 1925, and the second test was 1900.I usually take the average --> 1913.
Tube 2 result: 1875/1850 --> The first test was 1875, and the second test was 1850, average --> 1863.

My rule of thumb is that if the average for the tubes are within 10%, I would consider that the tubes are matched.This is only based on my poor understanding of tubes, you may find different methods from the others.

Lester 發表於 2012-1-9 09:24

Tube 1 result: 1925/1900 --> The first test was 1925, and the second test was 1900.I usually tak ...
tvkeung 發表於 2012-1-9 02:23 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif


   thanks ching, one more question, 點睇隻旦仲有幾耐命呢?(60%? 70%? )

tvkeung 發表於 2012-1-9 10:44

thanks ching, one more question, 點睇隻旦仲有幾耐命呢?(60%? 70%? )
Lester 發表於 2012-1-9 09:24 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif
It depends on the tube tester.Different testers have different readings to represent the condition of tubes.For example, if a tester said minimum 60 is good, and the test result is 95, then I would feel that the tube should still have lots of time left.Another example, if a tester said minimum 1200 is good, and the result is 1950, then I would also feel that the tube is good enough for me to buy.

Take a look at the following links for different testers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-pair-RCA-6SN7gt-tubes-made-Emerson-black-plates-tested-strong-6SN7-/330668527986?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item4cfd615172
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-VINTAGE-PHILCO-6SN7-GTB-AUDIO-VACUUM-TUBE-TESTED-100-/220925641856?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item337031c480
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCA-HEWLETT-PACKARD-5963-12AU7-VACUUM-TUBES-TESTED-GOOD-/170760881592?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item27c22445b8

Lester 發表於 2012-1-9 11:11

It depends on the tube tester.Different testers have different readings to represent the conditio ...
tvkeung 發表於 2012-1-9 10:44 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif


    thanks alot ching, actually, I find this:
ALL OUR TUBES TESTED ON TWO TESTER:
·         L-3-3 – CALIBRATED - Uplate=250v; Ugr=-2v; Ufil=12,6vl.
                                                1st TUEB - 1mA/1mA; 2nd TUBE - 1mA/1,1mA;
      TV7/U - 1st TUBE - 50/50; 2nd TUBE - 50/52 (MINIMUM ACCEPTED VALUE - 32/32)

50 vs 32, have 18 left, sounds not good right ?


http://www.ebay.com.hk/itm/ECC83-PAIR-TELEFUNKEN-DOUBLE-TRIODES-SMOOTH-12AX7-/310368949360?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item48436e5470#ht_1185wt_905

tvkeung 發表於 2012-1-9 11:28

回復 36# Lester

Not exactly...as I said, it depends on the tester, may be the maximum reading for the tester is 60.If so, then the tube is 50/60, still have 80%...

Lester 發表於 2012-1-9 11:37

回復Lester

Not exactly...as I said, it depends on the tester, may be the maximum reading for the ...
tvkeung 發表於 2012-1-9 11:28 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

OMG...{:6_168:}

lampard 發表於 2012-1-9 11:53

我想問下如果想換6sn7 係吾係一對一對咁match 就得, 吾洗4四隻match 晒?
Lester 發表於 2012-1-8 18:06 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

呢個係一個好既topic{:6_193:} !
Lester hing!你個部Super88應該同我部Super34一樣個6SN7膽係分兩對Match! 係1,4 ; 2,3 配。
小弟係新手一名,對於膽的功能及特性都好有興趣知,始終對日後玩落去好有幫助!{:6_229:}
以小弟愚見,換膽就等同其它器材一樣,要夾本身自已聽歌口味及本身套機嘅取向!{:6_182:}
因膽係一針見效的良藥,當一換落部機到,D聲會立即變得不一樣! 我在購買Super34時,由於都心大心細
諗過部super88, 蛋王個大佬換粒12AX7俾我聽, 更換後,可把原來靠後的人聲突出番!{:6_121:}
自已參考開呢個網站:
http://tubedepot.com/

申報利益,自已用緊Melody Super34
EL34 x 4支: 換成Gold Lion KT77
6SN7 x 4支 : 分別換成Kenrad VT231 Black Glass 2支及Kenrad VT2312支
5U4G x 2支 : 換成National 5U4G吊燈絲
電源線:Zu Mother MKII

googleli 發表於 2012-1-9 12:41

小弟有以下12AX7:
德律風根 - 個人覺得太淡聲
Mazda - 音場闊但口變大, 粗聲
Sovtek - 平均得滯好似聽石機咁
Mullard 50年代 - 貴, 在儷珊買差不多成五千蚊對, 聲靚但慢, 低頻好好
Amperex 長屏D環 - 應該是目前最貴最難找, 問過中環某店賣七千蚊對, 有幸在網上三千蚊樓下買到, 聲音甜美, 但略嫌低頻太有彈跳感, 中高頻會點搶, 要用後級和線材馴服.
Sylvania - 目前使用中 -暖聲舒服, 雖不及Mullard / Amperex 高音華麗, 但是聽得很自然, 而且低頻厚實.

沒試過大陸膽所以不能給予意見.
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