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[AV擴音機] Onkyo RZ1000 and RZ3000

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發表於 2016-1-18 19:26 | 顯示全部樓層
AAA1 發表於 2016-1-18 19:20
You can connect to 5Ghz wifi?
Maybe my amp has some problem
Of course it is too bulky to send for  ...

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AMP   :Pioneer SC-LX89
BDP    :Pioneer BDP-LX88
Front   :KEF R300
Centre :KEF R200C
Atmos :KEF R50 x 4
SUR    :M&K SUR-95T
SUB    :JL Audio D-110

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AAA1 發表於 2016-1-18 18:52
Atmos has no 96kHz so far
And to choose Atmos, you need to select auto surround
But when true dire ...
But when true direct is selected, I would expect it would jump to channel based and decode other disc with 96kHz capability
To my understanding, only Atmos and dolby surround use object based but not other modes (apart from the upcoming DTS X)


點解要用人手轉object同legacy?
你用過M記同D記就知
呢種做法正好解決M記/D記
行direct/PureDirect係出唔到atmos

p.s.dolby surround唔係object based
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本帖最後由 MDLP 於 2016-1-18 20:21 編輯
AAA1 發表於 2016-1-18 19:12
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The new Onkyo flagship will have 2 more channels output than Lx89 which need pre-a ...


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Everyone waited to see what that going to the purchase of the Onkyo Pioneer amplifier path, but this year we have not seen anything, nor on Pioneer amps, or on the Onkyo amps, even if the RZ series is a great success. Obviously, the first effects of this recovery will be felt in 2016 with the integration of a Class D amplifier and a new acoustic calibration system in the high-end Onkyo, and perhaps even in some mid-range models in 2016
... We still do not know how to evolve Pioneer amplifiers in 2016. Some Pioneer announced the end of 2015 amps, but we have seen, it was a false rumor, it was not for this year. By cons, if one thing is certain, is that the Onkyo amplifiers will go well in 2016. After the excellent surprises RZ800 and RZ900-TX, many of us were left wanting more in the absence of Models 9.2, 11.2 or more upscale. According to my colleagues AVCesar, series 1000 well will emerge and will probably be presented at CES 2016!
Indeed, amplifiers 9.2 Onkyo TX-TX-RZ3000 RZ1000 and will be marketed during the year 2016 and embark Class D amplification, probably very close to that proposed on Pioneer LX amps. These models will then enjoy a Dolby Atmos configuration 5.2.4 and 7.2.2 (or 7.2.4 by adding a block that power output Preout). The acoustic correction system via microphone will also be reviewed, more efficient, and it is logical to think that it will greatly inspired by Pioneer's MCACC, but with some changes and he said that a more efficient calibration mic up would provided. It's a safe bet that these models will be equipped with input / XLR outputs, one or more AKM DAC and asynchronous USB-B input, but this remains to be confirmed soon.
A representative of HDfever will be exhibiting at CES 2016 to cover this event and may include (among others) bring back some information Hifi lobby too often forgotten ...


一樣都係5.2.4 and 7.2.2
(or 7.2.4 by adding a block that power output Preout)
同LX89無分別
加上祇是false rumor
張相兩部都唔係真身機

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MDLP 發表於 2016-1-18 19:22
咁咪係囉
市面都無native 24/96 atmos
你又點可以話係firmware問題呀?

You are right
Both direct and true direct in Pioneer allow Atmos output as well
But what is the difference in sound quality?
I suppose direct mean no external processing added apart from Atmos
So the few modes are the same in Atmos?

To my understanding, dolby surround is using Atmos algorithm for non Atmos source and have to be rendered under object based

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本帖最後由 MDLP 於 2016-1-18 20:22 編輯
AAA1 發表於 2016-1-18 19:12
Back to the topic
The new Onkyo flagship will have 2 more channels output than Lx89 which need pre-a ...

A new version of MCACC, like Yamaha 3050 with 3D sound matching? Not just distance but with height or angle calculation?


Yamaha同Pioneer玩既野都完全唔同
Yamaha係玩唔屬於聲軌內及你家居有既附加環繞聲
Pioneer係玩矯正你家居房間來還完聲軌效果
所以無得比較
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本帖最後由 MDLP 於 2016-1-18 19:49 編輯
AAA1 發表於 2016-1-18 19:40
You are right
Both direct and true direct in Pioneer allow Atmos output as well
But what is the di ...


PureDirect是純解碼
Direct是純解碼+房間處理McAcc
其他mode是解碼+McAcc+DSP效果(例如v.spkr...)

你可能問O/P/M記行Pure會熄LED display / HDMI
點解Pioneer唔會 ???
其實Pioneer在任何一個mode不管direct定DSP
都可以開關LED display及HDMI

即係話
object based / HDMI / LED display任何mode都可以開關

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MDLP 發表於 2016-1-18 19:41
Yamaha同Pioneer玩既野都完全唔同
Yamaha係玩唔屬於聲軌內及你家居有既附加環繞聲
Pioneer係玩矯正你家 ...

http://www.audioholics.com/av-re ... -a2050-and-rx-a3050

R.S.C. with 3D, Multipoint and Angle Measurement

During the automatic room calibration process, YPAO – R.S.C. with 3D, multipoint and angle measurement analyzes the room acoustics and performs speaker angle measurements. After this, YPAO calibrates all of the audio parameters to achieve optimum sound at any of the listening positions in the theater. It employs Reflected Sound Control to correct early reflections for studio-quality surround sound playback. Additionally, it includes DSP Effect Normalization, which varies with each CINEMA DSP program and adjusts the room acoustics according to the reflected sounds of that CINEMA DSP program.



YPAO 2050   Multipoint w/ RSC  
         3050 R.S.C., 3D and angle measurement

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本帖最後由 MDLP 於 2016-1-18 21:44 編輯
AAA1 發表於 2016-1-18 21:28
http://www.audioholics.com/av-re ... -a2050-and-rx-a3050

R.S.C. with 3D, Mul ...


我都玩個幾部A5100
其實個角度得上下無左右
又唔知隻喇叭點toe點向  ?
數學上得一條邊角
根本搵唔到個3D座標




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sccyan 發表於 2016-1-18 19:26
我部89 search 唔到5G Wifi
(Post76 Android 手機版送出)

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香港海關人員負責執行香港法 ...

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