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 樓主| 發表於 2013-2-18 07:24 | 顯示全部樓層
coco123k 發表於 2013-2-17 23:05
開佢名啦 數臭佢,

其實都唔洗開名啦,
有audio3suck喇叭賣既鋪一隻手數晒,
佢地同埋個所謂dealer都係幫同一個大老板打工.

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 樓主| 發表於 2013-2-18 07:44 | 顯示全部樓層
CANEEKER 發表於 2013-2-18 02:22
原本簡單換過對就解決,但是一味拖,最後仲玩賴,左右不對稱都叫特性!? 真是長見識!!

堅持 REFUND ...

最怕有得比較~

現用對"挑喇叭"都用左十幾年,
早幾年開始老化,
於是搵新dealer(以前dealer係別超)問佢有冇得攪,
人地即刻同一個星期就收喇叭,
第二個星期就復我contact左美國搵左parts,
過多幾個星期就攪掂叫我取喇叭,
我話張單唔知去左邊,
人地就即刻同我verify個人資料,
確認身份先比返對野我.

睇下人地做野幾有效率,有交帶同有系統.
講真佢唔埋我都得架,
錢都入左別超個袋啦~

睇返而家奸阿周認屎,
收左我錢比次貨我,
仲係度拖,
up埋d傻仔都唔buy既籍口,
真係....

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 樓主| 發表於 2013-2-18 08:00 | 顯示全部樓層
喜喜天使 發表於 2013-2-18 02:45
REFUND

一月已經send左通諜比manufacturer啦~


Dear Dieter:

Thank you for your early congratulation.
I understand your general policy to communicate with dealer only.
How come Audiophysic designs first rate products but sell them in a defective condition and
provide below-standard support to customers.
(you may read the text in red first by skipping the details)

I paid in October, 2012.
Yet, I have not received a functional pair now.
I must express my disappointment and convey expectations clearly to you and the dealer.


I bought a pair of Tempo 25 and paid in the end of Oct, 2012. (Asia Theatre Central, HongKong)
And I receive a pair of speaker on the first Saturday of Nov, 2012.
I set them up and played several classical CDs on the next day.

1. Alfred Brendel's Moonlight sonata 1st movement Philips
2. Renee Fleming Panis Angelicus Decca
3. Pires Mozart Sonata in C major K309

And I found the right channel speaker producing "BLIZ" sound whenever the E5 key (659Hz) was played.
Yes, you read it correctly. I received a defective speaker that I even had not filled in the warranty card.
I switched the left-right speaker cables and the "BLIZ" sound still came out from the right speaker.

I contacted the sale manager (Mr. Lobo Cheung) of the shop who referred my case to Mr. Lawrence Lee of the dealer.
Mr. Cheung give me a test-tone CD to check the speakers. (In fact, I generated a more thorough set E1 (41Hz) to A9 (14kHz) for Mr. Lee.
Mr. Lee came to my home and I played the CDs listed and a test-tone file at (695Hz) generated by myself.
He acknowledged that there were noise coming out from the right speaker and took the defective speaker away
(including the CD tracks ,test-tone files and notes indicating the problematic frequencies to be tested).
I asked him whether he was going to replace it or repair it. But I got no answer from him.
Then, I added: "make sure that there are no following-up issues with the speaker,
otherwise, I will consider it as defective and I only accept replacement.
Because it showed problem immediately when it was first played."

In December, Mr. Lee told me that the problem was fixed and asked me to come to another shop in Causeway bay.
Yes, the "BLIZ" sound was gone but the tweeter produced loud high frequency "VEEEEEEEEE" when the E key was played through the mid-range.
I asked him to play the same key on another audiophysic speaker, the high frequency "VEEEEEE" was gone.
Only the E key was produced. Tested again with another brand speaker, no VEEEEEE sound too.
Mr. Lee said that it is the characteristic of Tempo 25. I questioned that why the left channel speaker does not show this characteristic.
And, why the Tempo 25 in the showroom does not show this characteristic? (The same CDs were played.)
If it does, do you think that I would buy this pair of speaker?
I did not accept it as repaired.

Last Saturday (16/1/2013), I contacted Mr. Lee if the problem is fixed.
He argued that it is not appropriate to play test-tone to check a speaker.
(Paradoxically, this method was suggested by his colleague Mr. Cheung.)
I convey my expectation to him that I want the pair of speakers to the consistent.
Not one channel plays a key while the other channel the same key differently.
Also, play some keys with only one tone while play others with dual tone.
He requested to collect the left channel speaker this Wednesday for matching while repairing the right channel.
It is okay for me.

BUT as time passes, I am losing confidence in the support and the reliability of your products.

my concern is:

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? 3 months is long enough to get a tweeter or crossover shipped to HK and get it replaced.

I paid the money in Oct last year, yet February is coming and I have ever received a functional pair that can play music with flaw.
I have never had any chance to enjoy a single minute of music by the money I paid.
It is beyond reasonable tolerance for a customer to waiting for a Godot.
What will you do if your company had not pay salary to you for 3 months?

I am not seeking procrastination or excuses but real solution.

Here is my requested :

1. Deliver a functional pair of speaker or a full refund to me on or before 15/2, or I will initiate legal procedure through the Consumer Council
( a  government agency protecting consumer right and release through mass media the name of problematic shops or company producing defective products)
AND I will disclose my case to local mass media through the Next Media and Apple Dailies to investigate whether  consumer right was violated.

2. by functional, I mean (i) no abnormal sound produced except the tone being played
(ii) the left-right speaker are producing the same sound when the same key was played through them.
These two criteria should be demonstrated to me clearly before I accept the pair of speaker as functional.


I strongly urge you to discuss the issues with the dealer and provide technical support he needs.
Or, you bear the risk of ruining your company reputation in HK.

Looking forward to your prompt action and solution.

Arthur

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發表於 2013-2-18 08:38 | 顯示全部樓層
師兄,你封信措詞強硬,好!據理力爭啊,我地支持你!!咁大個代理,為左一對喇叭,搞到一鑊屎咁,都唔係出來搵食既,叫人邊有信心買你代理既野!
俾對有問題喇叭個客,叫人點處理呀,聽又唔聽得,放二手害其他人?放床下底?做裝飾品?快快回水啦!!
Arcam cd37(ClearerAudio Copper-line PC, QED Signature Audio S RCA)
Plinius 9200(威馬k2m PC, MPF)
MA RX6(QED Revelation bi-wire SC)

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其實乜原因都好, 換過對/隻有幾難? 何苦呢??

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支持師兄,咁大間鋪至少應做返d野

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 樓主| 發表於 2013-2-18 10:52 | 顯示全部樓層
sealteam4 發表於 2013-2-18 10:28
支持師兄,咁大間鋪至少應做返d野

今早同佢老細投訴,
佢而家話replace,
老實講,
我都唔知要唔要好,
定係要求回水,
因為對間野真係冇晒信心.

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老實講, 我之前都有諗過下次用呢個牌子喇叭, 但俾師兄講幾講, 頓時好懷疑, 冇晒信心.

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 樓主| 發表於 2013-2-18 11:30 | 顯示全部樓層
kenneth_obee 發表於 2013-2-18 11:13
老實講, 我之前都有諗過下次用呢個牌子喇叭, 但俾師兄講幾講, 頓時好懷疑, 冇晒信心. ...

其實隻audio3suck係好野來的,
間鋪都冇咩問題,
response好快,
係dealer條友條條fingo者,
你急佢唔急,
成個失蹤人口o甘,
搵足佢幾個月~
11月頭搵到佢11月尾先出現;
1月又係我搵佢,
又話下星期比電話我,
最尾又係我搵佢先出現,
今早都係我同佢老板投訴,
再由佢老板搵條友出尼,
完全冇交帶~
問佢係咪replace,
佢唔答;
問佢係咪repair,
佢又唔答,
問佢幾時有solution,
佢又係冇野up....
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