隱藏於民間的極級武器 - Sommer Excelsior

ok102006

my cable...

with the Quadra blue speaker cable


btw, a lot of hi-fi amplifier / speakers are using Orbit speaker cables as connections inside

fuzzyboy18

ok102006 發表於 2012-12-27 17:33
my cable...

with the Quadra blue speaker cable

但係Excelsior RCA 邊個長度最好聲 ? 1.5m or 2m ?

wong777

nicknick 發表於 2012-12-27 10:09
相同的問題我問過香港其中一間代理，回覆是：出WBT版只因為市場需要，有些客特別喜愛WBT頭，但其實sommer ...

你被香港代理唔導左.

我都問過 SOMMER HK.
佢話條線身一樣, 只係 RCA 頭唔同.

但睇 Spec, 明顯有分別............
Sommer HK 真係唔多了解自己的產品, 所以我都係用 WBT version.
不過, 就同外國代理訂.

因外國代理, confirm 左係唔同, 佢話 WBT Version 係靚聲 d.
我信佢, 所以同佢訂左, 因為, 我係舊客同生日優惠, 佢被左過好價我 !

wong777

fuzzyboy18 發表於 2012-12-28 08:40
但係Excelsior RCA 邊個長度最好聲 ? 1.5m or 2m ?

For me, i got 2m.

wong777

ok102006 發表於 2012-12-27 17:33
my cable...

with the Quadra blue speaker cable

rca 係咪無方向 marking?

我之前入左一對, 係無.
跟手再 order時, 叫原廠幫我 mark 返方向, 佢地係個牌上貼左張箭咀 label.

wong777

Technical data: (HICON, normal version)
Wire/screen capacitance at 1 m: 54 pF
Centre conductor: 1 x 1.00 mm [AWG 18] solid conductor, silver-plated
Conductor insulation: 4.5 mm foam/skin PE
100 % shielding: 2 x cross mesh + 1 x silver-plated cross mesh
HICON PTFE Teflon-insulated fine silver phono connector with massive pin and collet stop, connector housing with optimum shielding

Technical data: (WBT)
Capacitance lead/shield at 1 m: 78 pF
Centre conductor: 1 x 0.50 mm² [AWG 20] with a 28 x 0.15 mm litz wire construction
Conductor insulation: PE
100 % shielding: Cu mesh screen + carbon screen
WBT fine silver phono connector, high-gloss black

絛線電容值都唔同, 線芯結構都唔同, 連屏蔽網都唔同.

HICON, normal version 每 0.5m 約加 $150. (0.5m $3462, 1m $3610)
WBT Version 每 0.5m 約加 $570. (0.5m $4845, 1m $5418)

明顯 WBT Version 線身係貴 d.

nicknick

wong777 發表於 2012-12-30 13:19
Technical data: (HICON, normal version)
Wire/screen capacitance at 1 m: 54 pF
Centre conductor: 1 x  ...

引証左一分錢一分貨，想靚聲D又要俾多D錢！

minimoai

wong777 發表於 2012-12-30 13:05
你被香港代理唔導左.

我都問過 SOMMER HK.

師兄係邊到訂？

wong777

minimoai 發表於 2012-12-30 18:23
師兄係邊到訂？

SORRY, 佢地唔做生客.

SOMMER HK 都自己減左價, 我訂就係平過香港, 如果, 正常連運費會同現在 HK 的, 差唔多.

之前 HK 條 WBT version 訂價錯曬, 被我問完之後咪減返, 我問個時, 果個 Product  manager 亂吹.

1. 就吹條身一樣, 咩 wbt 頭 只係因市場......

跟住, 我就問佢, 點解 hicon version 條線身長度同價錢成正比 (每加 0.5m , around 都係加 $150), 但條 wbt version 就唔係  (0.5 and 1m 差 around $500, 1m 同 2m 就差成 $2k)

2. 佢話可能條線長 D 難造 D, 我話條線身唔係一樣咩, 佢又話係, 跟住佢話唔知呀, SOMMER 總公司定價的. (當時條 2M, 貴現在 1K 有多.)

跟住咪去同之前買過野的德國 HIFI SHOP 問下. 發覺德國兩款 RCA 定價都係同條線身長度價錢成正比, 亦係 WBT 條線身貴 D.
咪同佢地訂, 作為 SOMMER HK, 唔該自己熟讀自己產品, 咪亂 UP............

fuzzyboy18

wong777 發表於 2012-12-30 13:09
rca 係咪無方向 marking?

我之前入左一對, 係無.

我都買左2m, 一般發燒友話1.8米以上才好聲.

但線身無方向marking, 應點可分辦有無插錯?