mightyatoms 發表於 2009-11-18 01:11

(聽歌) 低階合併機 vs 高階AV擴音機

Can any ching share the experience which one is better and why it is better than the other?

Celica 發表於 2009-11-18 02:43

都要有個price range先得wor,我相信同牌子$2K stereo amp win $6-7k surround amp係可以的.

Einstein 發表於 2009-11-18 03:32

本帖最後由 Einstein 於 2009-11-18 03:47 編輯

Can any ching share the experience which one is better and why it is better than the other?
mightyatoms 發表於 2009-11-18 01:11 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif
1. 設計唔同, 2ch int for 聽歌, 而AV amp 本身唔使音樂性, 多d力for movie
2. int amp 只有2ch amp, 而av amp 最少7片, 同grade 都3.5倍成本, 另av amp 仲要加hdmi, HD解碼成本...
3. av amp 要同時處理影象video, 而同一線路做Video & Audio 數碼, 一定對 模擬的2ch音樂做成壞影嚮
4......仲有ka....


PS: 其實某d高階AV擴音機, 唔差過d低階合併機幾多...

mightyatoms 發表於 2009-11-18 12:04


1. 設計唔同, 2ch int for 聽歌, 而AV amp 本身唔使音樂性, 多d力for movie
2. int amp 只有2ch amp, 而av amp 最少7片, 同grade 都3.5倍成本, 另av amp 仲要加hdmi, HD解碼成本...
3. av amp 要同時處理影象video, ...
Einstein 發表於 2009-11-18 03:32 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

Einstein hing,
But based on the spec from int amp, the output is just around 60-100W per channel.... is it already enough to push the floorstanding speakers??

mightyatoms 發表於 2009-11-18 12:07

都要有個price range先得wor,我相信同牌子$2K stereo amp win $6-7k surround amp係可以的.
Celica 發表於 2009-11-18 02:43 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

Ok, let me say in this way...
Those high end AV amp should cost more than $10K....
So can I assume $3-4K int amp can win these AV amps?

radhk 發表於 2009-11-18 12:17

本帖最後由 radhk 於 2009-11-18 16:16 編輯



Ok, let me say in this way...
Those high end AV amp should cost more than $10K....
So can I assume $3-4K int amp can win these AV amps?
mightyatoms 發表於 2009-11-18 12:07 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

師兄, 我諗人人心目中把尺都唔同. 真係要你自己出去試, 先可以比到答案你自己. 有d人心目中差一條街, 但有d人又會覺得無分別. 就好似下面都有人認為 806 同 mini HiFi 播歌無分別.

http://www.post76.com/discuss/viewthread.php?tid=24447&extra=page%3D1

djaddy 發表於 2009-11-18 12:32

As mentioned in my thread:
http://www.post76.com/discuss/viewthread.php?tid=22807

為什麼影音分家?

The below was a ching's sharing. This was what helped me decide to 影音分家 :

到底 AV PRE 同 AUDIO PRE 有乜好大分別??

無錯AV PRE 同 一D AUDIO PRE 都系將D SIGNAL 放大後再送 POWER AMP, 但 當中最大吾同的系設計 OP AMP (運算放大)時 AV AMP的 Qts值會比 AUDIO PRE較小, (OP AMP 很很重要, 所有DAC的這個部份都是設計命脈, 另外就是CLOCK) 即導致每一音頻尾段收音較快, 較硬, 音樂感減少. 另外很多AV PRE 都會有 DIRECT, BYPASS 等等功能, 哪既然你輸入的是ANALOGUE 訊號了, 為何還有BYBASS, DIRECT 等等, 這代表了, 你入去的訊號已經經過 A/D 再 D/A 的轉換, 這樣一定需要採樣, 甘肯定變數碼聲. (點樣BYPASS都一定轉過, 以家PIONEER多左個功能叫 PURE DIRECT, 比DIRECT更DIRECT, 但你又重可以調較一個叫PURE PHASE的功能唻DELAY D 聲頻時間..........你話.甘又點會DIRECT 呢??) 所以無論你用乜DAC, 你接入AV AMP 都系吾系最原味既野. 但好的AUDIO PRE-AMP一定系盡量ANALOGUE 化, 但當然現在也很難100%啦(要用REMOTE 嗎...哈哈), 不過在音頻的再生表現上一定比同級的AV要好.

muse2705 發表於 2009-11-18 14:10

As mentioned in my thread:
http://www.post76.com/discuss/viewthread.php?tid=22807

為什麼影音分家?

The below was a ching's sharing. This was what helped me decide to 影音分家 :

到底 AV PRE 同 AUDIO...
djaddy 發表於 2009-11-18 12:32 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

咁講法如果有部貴cdp, 真係一定要買int amp先得wor

djaddy 發表於 2009-11-18 15:16

8# muse2705


YES! There is no other way! {:6_175:}

7500martin 發表於 2009-11-18 15:25

Sometimes, output means nothing!! Speaker is another consideration when matching with your integrated amp. Sometimes, a pair of bookshelf speaker is more power hunger than a pair of floorstanding speaker.

First of all, u need to know what u want!! If u listen music, more than watching movie. Better to buy integrated amp, instead of AV amp. If u want to have the best of both, u need to have lots of money!!

Unlike Home threatre, 2 channel is a money consuming hobby!! The price for a set of spikes maybe same as the price of a mid price av amp. For this reason, pls make sure what u want and try avoid buying something wrong!!
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