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發表於 2009-11-25 14:17 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 micma 於 2009-11-25 14:19 編輯
atom ching, I think you need check what setting for subwoofer being available in your 81 when your fornt speaker is set in large mode.
micma 發表於 2009-11-25 14:10


For your further info, i can select the bass mix method for my subwoofer either "Mix" of "Both" in my av amp's speaker setup when the front speakers is large.

my av amp is Marantz SR6003

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 樓主| 發表於 2009-11-25 14:17 | 顯示全部樓層
C hing, Try front speakers= small, crossover: 80HZ.
cyberken 發表於 2009-11-25 14:15


Cyberken hing,
But my rear speaker is Mirage nanosat and its operating frequencies is from 120Hz...
so if i set crossover at 80Hz, will there be any bass loss from rear??
TV: Sony X70G65
AV: Pioneer LX81
BD: OPPO BDP-105D
Int Amp: Gryphon Diablo 300
DAC: Weiss DAC501
NAS: QNAP HS453
Switch: SOtM sNH-10G
Power: PS Audio P12
F: B&W 805D3
C: B&W HTM62
R: Mirage Nanosat Pr

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 樓主| 發表於 2009-11-25 14:22 | 顯示全部樓層
For your further info, i can select the bass mix method from my subwoofer either "Mix" of "Both" when the front speakers is large.

my av amp is Marantz SR6003
micma 發表於 2009-11-25 14:17


I got your meaning now....

But Pioneer only allows SW has below setting:
Yes: LFE signals and bass frequencies of channels set to SMALL are output from the subwoofer
No: the bass frequencies are output from other speakers
Plus: the subwoofer to output bass sound continuously or you want deeper bass (the bass frequencies that would normally come out the front and center speakers are also routed to the subwoofer)

So I dont think they have the "Mix" mode like Onkyo & Marantz
TV: Sony X70G65
AV: Pioneer LX81
BD: OPPO BDP-105D
Int Amp: Gryphon Diablo 300
DAC: Weiss DAC501
NAS: QNAP HS453
Switch: SOtM sNH-10G
Power: PS Audio P12
F: B&W 805D3
C: B&W HTM62
R: Mirage Nanosat Pr

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發表於 2009-11-25 14:31 | 顯示全部樓層
I got your meaning now....

But Pioneer only allows SW has below setting:
Yes: LFE signals and bass frequencies of channels set to SMALL are output from the subwoofer
No: the bass frequencies are ou ...
mightyatoms 發表於 2009-11-25 14:22



in your case, i think you might try to compare the effect from "Yes" to "Plus".

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 樓主| 發表於 2009-11-25 14:36 | 顯示全部樓層
56# cyberken

Thanks Ken hing...
I got your point...
Let me try your scenario too tonight.
TV: Sony X70G65
AV: Pioneer LX81
BD: OPPO BDP-105D
Int Amp: Gryphon Diablo 300
DAC: Weiss DAC501
NAS: QNAP HS453
Switch: SOtM sNH-10G
Power: PS Audio P12
F: B&W 805D3
C: B&W HTM62
R: Mirage Nanosat Pr

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56# cyberken

Thanks Ken hing...
I got your point...
Let me try your scenario too tonight.
mightyatoms 發表於 2009-11-25 14:36

I also recommend that C-hing you should at least try, even that does not appear appealing.

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 樓主| 發表於 2009-11-25 14:42 | 顯示全部樓層
I also recommend that C-hing you should at least try, even that does not appear appealing.
朗 發表於 2009-11-25 14:39


Yes, but u know... i will forget what I have heard while too many scenarios tested...
i have concrete ears.....

But I will try as many as I can anyway...
TV: Sony X70G65
AV: Pioneer LX81
BD: OPPO BDP-105D
Int Amp: Gryphon Diablo 300
DAC: Weiss DAC501
NAS: QNAP HS453
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Power: PS Audio P12
F: B&W 805D3
C: B&W HTM62
R: Mirage Nanosat Pr

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 樓主| 發表於 2009-11-25 14:56 | 顯示全部樓層
May be, but i think bass from rear should be much less than fornt and centre, if i were you, i rather stronger bass from F and C.

BTW, even I am using int. amp as for power amp to drive 805s, i found ...
cyberken 發表於 2009-11-25 14:26


Cyberken hing,
1 more question. Before you got your int amp, did you use bi-amp function of LX71? or you just didnt use it and single wire + jumper?
TV: Sony X70G65
AV: Pioneer LX81
BD: OPPO BDP-105D
Int Amp: Gryphon Diablo 300
DAC: Weiss DAC501
NAS: QNAP HS453
Switch: SOtM sNH-10G
Power: PS Audio P12
F: B&W 805D3
C: B&W HTM62
R: Mirage Nanosat Pr

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 樓主| 發表於 2009-11-25 15:46 | 顯示全部樓層
62# cyberken

Thanks Cyberken hing for sharing your experience....
TV: Sony X70G65
AV: Pioneer LX81
BD: OPPO BDP-105D
Int Amp: Gryphon Diablo 300
DAC: Weiss DAC501
NAS: QNAP HS453
Switch: SOtM sNH-10G
Power: PS Audio P12
F: B&W 805D3
C: B&W HTM62
R: Mirage Nanosat Pr

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發表於 2009-11-25 16:39 | 顯示全部樓層
just ignore what your friend said , if he s that smart ,he should help you for set up to have better performance ....

but i saw you set the crossover at 130 and set front large , i think there should be problem, , the most safe setting was all speaker set to small because your pioneer was not very enough for your floorstand speaker , set small and try the crossover from 80 to 120 , u have to check your surround speaker and see their limit so that you can set at where. and the bass out always set to "woofer only" ,this is important, don't set both unless you have the same band and same series .if u follow these option , i m sure won't be that bad . hope this help
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