Roksan Caspian M series bi-amp
小弟一直身痕加部Caspian M1 後級玩bi-amp, 看完這個post更加痕{:1_331:}http://www.post76.com/discuss/viewthread.php?tid=80619
因為代理沒有M1後級, 所以一直沒有機會聽M1合併 + M1 stereo power amp雙攻方的效果, 現在有部全身M1後級在外國, 連埋運費大約$10K, 聲底一定夾, 或者買部M2後級大約$14K, 聲底有的分別, 代理現在沒有M1合併, 又無得試清楚, 請問師兄們的意見{:1_245:}
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器材如下:
Roksan Kandy K2 CDP --> Oyaide PA-02 IC --> Roksan Caspian M1 integrated amp --> Belden 5T00UP SC bi-wire--> Roksan FR-5 loudspeakers 喇叭距離皇帝位11呎= very very large space!!!{:1_344:} 喇叭距離皇帝位11呎= very very large space!!!
HOHOHO 發表於 2012-1-5 18:14 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif
寒舍失禮啦, 聽音樂只有廳的半邊{:1_245:} 英國網友意見由Google翻譯:
The answer lies in what speakers you use / intend to use and whether they benefit from bi-amping. Personally I have never found much improvement for the £s spent, nowhere near what you get by going to a 2 x mono (which *should* cost about the same)
答案就在您使用/揚聲器打算使用和是否受益於雙功放。我個人從來沒有發覺所花的英鎊，遠不及你要一個2個單聲道（*成本大約=雙功放*）得到很大改善， Sorry if you’ve covered this before but can you explain a little about what you are trying to achieve?I can only assume that you feel the M1 integrated is not driving the FR-5’s well (enough)?
In very general terms, bi-amping reduces the load placed on each ‘leg’ of the amplifier by the speaker.So in theory, the amp has slightly more headroom than would otherwise be the case.Whether you perceive this as an ‘upgrade’ or not might be debatable as results from bi-amping seem to vary.
I have no direct experience of bi-amping with Roksan kit but I used to run a bi-amped Meridian set up.With respect, I think you’d be heading down a blind alley by purchasing either of the amps you mention and running them with your current integrated amp.The FR-5’s are pretty demanding and I’d go with using monoblocs instead and when funds allow swapping out the integrated for a dedicated pre-amp.That is actually where I experienced the biggest gain in my old set up.
You may be looking for an ‘easy’ upgrade but if I were you I’d be saving for longer and getting the pre/mono’s in one go.
很抱歉，如果您已經涵蓋此之前，但你能解釋有點什麼你正在努力實現嗎？我只能假設，你覺得 M1集成驅動 FR- 5（足夠）？
雙功放非常籠統，降低每個放大器的“腿”上放置的揚聲器負載。所以在理論上，放大器有更多的空間比其他案件。無論你認為作為一個“升級”，或可能有爭議的雙功放的結果似乎不同。
我有沒有直接經驗與套件ROKSAN雙功放，但我用來運行一個雙功放經絡成立。恕我直言，我認為你會前往購買你提到的放大器和運行與您當前的集成放大器的一個死胡同。 FR- 5是相當艱鉅的，我會去monoblocs而不是使用資金時，允許換出一個專門的前置放大器集成。這實際上是我經歷了我老成立的最大的收穫。
你可能會尋找一個“易”的升級，但如果我是你，我保存更長的時間，一氣呵成的前/單聲道的。 I recently demo'ed the Caspian power amp m2 to see what difference bi amping would make.
I listened with the integrated and then with the power amp in bi amp configuration, was with a pair of B&W CM9's.
There is no real improvement in sound quality but could hear the speakers working better a bit more control in all areas but I can't find it in myself to spend £1000 plus for a slight enhancement .I am sure I could spend that money in other areas to get a better improvement.
I can not comment on how this would compare with monoblocks but I would assume you would need to look at a pre amp instead of an integrated which I guess is a slightly different game and there will be many here with experience of such set ups who can advise better than I.
我最近demo'ed里海功放M2，看看有什麼差異雙向功放。
我聽到的綜合，然後在雙向放大器配置的功放，一對 B＆W的CM9的。
有沒有真正改善音質，但可以聽到揚聲器工作在各個領域的控制更好一點，但我無法找到自己花1000加上英鎊略有增強，我相信我可以花的錢，在其他領域，以獲得更好的改善。
我不能評論這將如何與monoblocs整體比較，但我會假設你需要，而不是一個集成的，我想看看預放大器是一個略有不同的遊戲，會有很多經驗等設置誰可以就比我好 小弟都唸過加個power amp
我都係用roksan
不過研究中又覺得不如真係認認真真去改變，例如買更好的合併機或直接換前後級
如果合併機再加多部後級真係好有用好大幫助，點解無其他品牌咁樣出？
得roksan同我地偉大祖國推薦咁玩？？小弟見識少，可能我唔識野
但我也是roksan用家，我也很喜歡這品牌，但真覺得換機會更實際 回復 7# sealteam4
C Hing, which model you are using? 小弟都唸過加個power amp
我都係用roksan
不過研究中又覺得不如真係認認真真去改變，例如買更好的合併機或 ...
sealteam4 發表於 2012-1-8 13:05 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif
因為未有機會聽過M1前後級, 所以唔係好清楚, 只是聽過M1合併 pre-out 去 Caspian mono blocks X 2 推Roksan座地喇叭FR-5, 覺得推力充裕, 淡淡定定, 密度、質感、線條感比較好過單獨M1合併, 速度比M1合併慢了少些.
聽過M2雙功放播幾首歌仔, 未有機會比較M2合併的分別, 唔肯定M2雙功放有幾多進步{:1_342:}
至於可以bi-amp的應該有好多牌子喎 {:1_245:} 回復 1# ANWKLO
hi,
I have one M1 Intergrated amp, black, are you interested?