darko 發表於 2011-4-27 21:36

M1 DAC 出來的聲音很差

之前我都用過m1 usb接電腦, 都係覺得張平價sound card飽滿有活力d, 當時用aq columbia dbs 72v rca, 之後用cd同軸出配neotech 2001同軸cable又係差吾多

用的係av amp及int amp

我覺得用同軸好聲過usb, 有無師兄覺得?


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Nan7yo 發表於 2011-4-27 22:13

M1 DAC 出來的聲音很差


我覺得用同軸好聲過usb, 有無師兄覺得?


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M1 - yes
My rDac USB is better


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darko 發表於 2011-4-27 23:01

M1 DAC 出來的聲音很差


M1 - yes
My rDac USB is better


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rDac真係好細部!


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qwe456 發表於 2011-4-27 23:13

M1 - yes
My rDac USB is better


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Nan7yo 發表於 2011-4-27 22:13 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif


    That I disagree...I have tried rDAC, DAC Magic, and M1DAC...Honestly, they are all pretty crappy, but I thought, at the time, that I needed a USB DAC and I settled for M1DAC as the least of all evils in that price range...

The older MF DACs are far better!

qwe456 發表於 2011-4-27 23:16

foobar, mp3
wilson_ws 發表於 2011-4-27 19:26 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif


    ASIO (ASIO4ALL), kernel streaming, or WASAPI?

Nan7yo 發表於 2011-4-28 00:42

That I disagree...I have tried rDAC, DAC Magic, and M1DAC...Honestly, they are all pretty ...
qwe456 發表於 2011-4-27 23:13 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif


What I mean: (and from my system + environmnet, plus to my ears)

M1: coaxial performs better than USB
rDac: USB performs better than coaxial

I didn't say rDac is better than M1.

And if you wanna improves M1, can try V-Link, go computeraudiophile.com and lots of useful information there (I'm quoting from some CHings who brought me to DAC study, thanks for my teachers here)

They are different taste, you can search some of our old posts and you will know what I mean.

Btw, I owned rDAC, M1 & PS DLIII and won't think they are crap. They are outstanding for the money paid. 

Of course if someone has enough bullets to buy Weiss 202 or even Zodiac or W4S DAC2 etc, rDac/M1 mean nothing to him/her  :-)

2evo 發表於 2011-4-28 00:46

I'm using M1 currently, the sound is good. Try 2 things - 1)coaxial is much better 2)buy the good USB cable.

qwe456 發表於 2011-4-28 00:57

What I mean: (and from my system + environmnet, plus to my ears)

M1: coaxial performs better tha ...
Nan7yo 發表於 2011-4-28 00:42 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif


To be honest, given their history with the older DACs, I was expecting a lot more from M1DAC and rDAC.Perhaps it's more an expectation issue than anything!

By the way, what do you think about PS DLIII?Meant to do it for a while, but I haven't got the chance to audition it yet...Thanks.

Big_McIn 發表於 2011-4-28 01:03

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foobar, mp3
wilson_ws 發表於 2011-4-27 19:26 http://www.post76.com/discuss/images/common/back.gif

1. mp3 files都有分壓縮情度,download落嚟唔使錢,用mp3機聽吓就得,用大機聽就等同用台1920 x 1080p HQ TV來睇翻版錄影帶,HQ TV會將所有缺陷表露無遺,低質素mp3 files經DAC入Amp播放,無高無低,失真盡現。

2. CAS是時興玩意,用錢買到的WAV, FLAC過DAC入Amp方能和CD質素相比,mp3 files,試吓歌仔好唔好聽就無問題。

3. 最平的USB + 紅白RCA線不會令聲音很差,我們要尋根源。{:6_142:}

cookiemon 發表於 2011-4-28 09:54

Try to play lossless format first like Aiff, WAV, FLAC, APE ...

and install sox plugin on foobar for upsampleing
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=67373

Try to use other players as well like Cplay (for FLAC and WAV) and audiogate (for Aiff , Wav and FLAC)
These players need to have ASIO driver.
http://www.asio4all.com/

Have fun !
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