xerxeshowie 發表於 2015-5-30 11:43 static/image/common/back.gif
I use Dyna ma, any other is second la
And Excite X14 is just a entry-level model !, No ...
師兄，我又係用Dyna 喇叭的，見你下下都post Dyna，不如你分享一下 Dyna 有什麼好？What HI Fi 5 星又代表D 嘜？
Dyna 喇叭難推的，Amp 要 high current 輸出，你推薦部 Amp 夠力嗎？請指教下{:8_394:}
xerxeshowie 發表於 2015-5-30 14:07 static/image/common/back.gif
Will Dyna give me a C1P for free ? ,
if i keep posting Dyna PICs !
Dyna 出名小弟都知道，下次音響展一定去聽下係點嘅聲
C hing 有冇聽過比較過跟 Elac 喇叭聲的分別？
本帖最後由 xerxeshowie 於 2015-5-30 18:12 編輯
MarkMak 發表於 2015-5-30 14:45 static/image/common/back.gif
師兄，我又係用Dyna 喇叭的，見你下下都post Dyna，不如你分享一下 Dyna 有什麼好？What HI Fi 5 星又代 ...
CA 851W is 200W should able to drive little X14 la{:6_125:}
You use Dynaudio Contour S1.4, When you upgrade to C1P ?{:6_158:}
Dyna's are difficult Problem due to 4ohm, but some model is 8ohm now !
For Confidence Series:( Low Model also have similar stuffs, but not as advance ! )
1, DDC technology
DDC（Dynaudio Directivity Control）技術。DDC的作用是縮減喇叭在垂直方向的擴散角度，使經由天花板與地板反射至聆聽位置的聲波減少，也就是增加垂直方向的直接音的比例，進而降低天花板與地板對聲音的影響。據Dynaudio的資料表示，DDC最多可讓垂直方向的反射減少75%。這樣有什麼好處？可以不必費心處理天花板，而且有些空間的天花板比較低，或是剛好有大樑在聆聽區上方，但配備了DDC技術後，都能更容易地融入這些不夠完美的空間。
2, Esotar2 with Precision Coating
Esotar 2高音單體，振膜當然是絲質軟半球，不過振膜表面的塗佈技術又再更上層樓，不僅更平均，也更精準，可讓高頻更為滑順、甜美。
中音與低音當然也是Dynaudio看家的MSP振膜單體，不過MSP單體最厲害的地方倒不是振膜，而是超大音圈，以及振膜與防震蓋直接壓鑄一體成形（也可以說沒有防塵蓋）。超大音圈的磁力運用效率更加，磁路系統的控制力更好，散熱更佳，而一體成形壓鑄則可增強振膜的剛性。
3, Aluminium wire voice coils
4, Kapton voice coil formers
5, Sound optimized front baffle
6, Made in Demark
7, No Bi-Wire, not to change its sound.
DYNAUDIO的聲音 其實也不需要我多加背書贅述
一句話 就是通透
就和談戀愛一樣
為什麼會愛上DYNAUDIO?
因為她精準忠實的回應著我所給她的一切
很多人都說DYNAUDIO很難搞
其實我覺得不是難搞 4 ohm, 而是一種談戀愛的樂趣
就是要弄清楚她的特性
而DYNA的特性就是 要有很大的電流(CURRENT)以及很優異的控制力(DAMPING FACTOR)
大電流 是因為喇叭的音圈大(75mm VOICE COIL)
優異的控制力是因為阻抗(IMPEDANCE)會一直在變動
若控制力不好的話 最明顯的就是低音該停的時候沒有正確的停下來.
用的是Dynaudio自家研製的軟半球高音單體.
至於中低音單體當然也是Dynaudio的製品，原廠特別強調是採用超輕量鋁質音圈繞線，以及更強而有力的磁力系統製作而成，振膜自然是招牌MSP材質。
Dynaudio的入門款式，隸屬於旗艦喇叭的DDC指向性控制技術也被拿來運用於分音器上，最大的優點是可以控制聲波擴散的方向，進一步減少地面反射音對於音樂重播所造成的干擾問題。
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Music Listienng:
中性、不誇耀的個性
像是用放大鏡檢視般清晰
精準是唯一準則
「沒個性」是顯而易見的事實，但這樣的事實又是完整傳達音樂訊息的最重要條件，它不強加自己的個性，精準則是唯一準則，調得好聽便痛快，調得不好就受罪，這樣的堅持在現今這個崇尚花巧與媚俗的世界，已經越來越少了。
形體龐大 音場寬鬆:
音場深邃寬鬆，鋼琴顆粒結實，高音有厚度且帶著淡淡的優雅光澤。此外，演奏中非常細微的衣服摩擦聲、呼吸聲都沒有放過，多了這些細節，讓音樂聽起來更具活生感。
優秀的細節描繪能力:
具有優秀的細節描繪能力，我聽到的不是虛無飄渺的細微聲響而已，而是勾勒出紮紮實實的臨場感
好厲害的音樂能量:
快速明確的低頻衝擊節奏，完全不會拖泥帶水、模糊不清，飽足的能量感充滿了整個聆聽空間，音場非常開闊，迷幻般的電子音效在面前左右來回快速飄移。如果您有機會實際試聽的話，別怕，放膽把音量催下去，因為我試過了，即使音壓大到耳朵都快受不了，單體依然氣定神閒，沒有被操壞，厲害！
What HI FI review is base on listening, how musical it is, and Dyna have done it again !
http://www.whathifi.com/dynaudio/dm-27/review
http://www.whathifi.com/dynaudio/dm-26/review
Technology
According to Wilfried Ehrenholz, Dynaudio's co-founder, the only way for a loudspeaker company to produce really exceptional loudspeakers is by developing its own drivers.
Consequently, Dynaudio loudspeakers are a unique combination of innovative driver technology, state-of-the-art manufacturing, and true hand-craftsmanship. Find out more about our unique Dynaudio technology and how perfectioning small things leads to a better overall loudspeaker.
Magnesium Silicate Polymer membrane
The exclusive driver membrane is an immediately visible and characteristic feature of Dynaudio loudspeakers. For bass and mid-range units, the company uses a proprietary composite of magnesium silicate polymer (MSP), a material that combines low mass, high rigidity, and ideal internal damping properties. Formed in a special manufacturing process, this membrane is a unique design with the distinctive, geometrically optimized form of the cone further enabling smooth sound dispersion.
Coated soft dome tweeter
The best material for a tweeter is experience: Dynaudio has relied on silk soft-dome tweeters for recreating high frequencies since the company was founded, continuously improving and perfecting the soft-dome principle over the years. Dynaudio tweeter designs require a time consuming, labor-intensive manufacturing process where the fine fabric diaphragm is shaped into a dome and is then treated with a specially formulated coating. As a further refinement, the tweeter’s aluminium voice-coil is suspended in a magnetic oil, which increases power handling while also improving the dome’s excursion. The result is the celebrated Dynaudio tweeter, which, thanks to its incomparable performance, is commonly regarded as one of the very best drivers in the world. No other tweeter construction achieves such a high level of balanced and natural frequency response.
Furniture-grade cabinets
Dynaudio finishes most models in expressive real-wood veneers. The Danish tradition of craftsmanship drives the meticulous process of selecting and matching veneers from the finest woods available, followed by careful sanding, polishing and coating. Additional internal damping, strengthening, and bracing in critical sections of the cabinet substantially reduces unwanted resonance. The highly sophisticated Dynaudio cabinets achieve a refined level of quality only possible through many years of experience. At the same time, the company cares greatly about natural resources and exclusively uses environmentally-friendly materials and non-endangered woods throughout the entire production process.
Die-cast aluminium baskets
A loudspeaker driver consists of many different moving parts: A magnet powers a voice coil, which moves the diaphragm. The membrane is supported in a flexible assembly, surrounded by a supple rubber ring. In order to perform in a controlled manner, all of these parts must be housed together in a highly rigid frame: the driver basket. Dynaudio primarily utilizes low-resonance, highly warp-resistant baskets made of die-cast aluminium. Due to the stiffness of this non-magnetic material, the basket can be designed with aerodynamically formed ribs to reduce air compression behind the moving membrane. Another advantage is its long-term resistance against thermal, mechanical or other external influences. For many years, Dynaudio was the only manufacturer to consider aerodynamic improvement of the driver basket. The extraordinary endurance and especially unvarying sound quality characteristics of the Dynaudio driver are a result of the innovative and solid basket construction.
CNC machining
Dynaudio loudspeaker baffles, tweeter housings, and many other parts are manufactured using CNC (Computerized Numerical Control) machining. Computer-programmed and controlled by ultra-responsive sensors, precision to within a single micrometer (ìm) can be achieved with metal or wood materials. For example, multi-axial drilling machines produce acoustically optimized baffle shapes and unique design details. Since Dynaudio is one of the very few loudspeaker companies to carry out CNC machining completely inhouse, prototypes or experimental models can be conceptualized, designed digitally, and then immediately produced. Only with this deep vertical integration can extensive quality improvements and optimizations be continuously implemented.
Center magnet system
The Dynaudio center magnet system yields a compact yet powerful driver system. Its strong suit is the alignment: with the magnet positioned inside the voice coil, a larger and more homogenous magnetic field can be utilized, with less magnetic radiation from the inner magnet. This exceptional technology has the further benefit of symmetry, since the use of two magnet rings above each other enables a totally symmetrical pole piece design, making the driver coil induction constant in any voice coil position. This results in an extremely precise and symmetric voice coil movement for exact signal reproduction – even at higher volume levels.
Vented magnet system
Dynaudio tweeters, mid-range and bass drivers benefit from venting of the otherwise nearly sealed compartments between the magnets and diaphragms. The Dynaudio center magnet system reduces the reflection surface behind the woofer cone, while the extremely rigid die-cast aluminium baskets are optimally shaped to further eliminate air turbulence and resonance. Dynaudio tweeters include a special damping chamber integrated into the rear of the construction, deadening any back-wave energy through an acoustic absorber. The advantages include high power handling and unimpeded excursion of cones and domes.
Aluminium voice coils
A distinct and major Dynaudio innovation is the use of pure aluminium wire for voice coils. In comparison to the more commonly used and much heavier copper alternative, aluminium allows for more windings and extraordinarily large diameter coils that remain extremely light. By using aluminium instead of copper for a bass driver, it is possible to effectively double the coil’s diameter without increasing its mass. Due to the thermal properties of aluminium, cooling of the voice coil is dramatically improved as well. In combination with the equally light voice coil former and powerful magnet materials used in Dynaudio designs, cone excursion is much more controlled and the driver follows the music signal from the amplifier with a remarkable sense of dynamics and accuracy.
Ferrofluid
The voice coil is positioned within the magnetic field of the tweeter magnet. When the loudspeaker reproduces sound, the voice coil, powered by the amplifier current, moves at a speed of up to 25,000 waves per second. To achieve a uniform movement, a magnetic fluid called ferrofluid is used around the voice coil. Ferrofluid works like a subtle shock absorber and eliminates excess energy. Due to the relatively high current and extremely fast movements, the voice coil is under constant thermal stress. The ferrofluid dissipates this heat, while also increasing power handling capabilities. The frequency range of the Dynaudio tweeter can thus be expanded while the frequency response remains smooth and linear, delivering the highest resolution and most neutral sound reproduction.
High quality 1st order crossovers
Only the highest quality components, selected for their sonic properties, are utilized in Dynaudio crossovers: carefully wound pure OFC (oxygen-free copper) air-coils, select capacitors, and temperature-stable ceramic resistors. A Dynaudio crossover features pure 1st order filters (6 dB/octave), which enable a superior transient response and can only be effectively used with the ultra-linear frequency response of the Dynaudio drivers. Another Dynaudio area of expertise is impedance correction, making a perfect combination possible with virtually all amplifiers.
Dynaudio Directivity Control
The distinctive driver symmetry with two mirrored drive units is an unmistakable characteristic of the Dynaudio Directivity Control (DDC) technology. After years of development experience with Dynaudio professional studio monitor loudspeakers, it became clear that many recordings are of superb quality but, due to listening room acoustics, the potential of these recordings could not be fully experienced. In particular, reflections from floor and ceiling boundaries interfere with a faithful, realistic sonic reproduction because of distortions and added time delays. With DDC, Dynaudio has created a technology that effectively reduces these effects. The vertical symmetrical drive unit array and elaborate crossover topology reduce the energy dispersed to the floor and ceiling by approximately 75 percent. The controlled vertical dispersion makes the loudspeaker far less dependent on the room and much less influenced by positioning as compared to conventional designs. DDC isn’t simply arranging the drivers in a symmetrical array. For DDC to succeed, every single detail – from each drive unit to the crossover – must be individually tailored and optimized for this concept. With two tweeters, two mid-range drivers and, depending on the model, two or four woofers, each drive unit complements its identical counterpart in frequency response and phase relationship in such a manner that a carefully defined dispersion characteristic is achieved. This intricate matching is repeated once again for each loudspeaker pair to work together in tandem. DDC is an impressive example of the innovative Dynaudio methodology for loudspeaker design and is truly without equal.
Dynaudio fine tuning
It is not just technology that sets a Dynaudio loudspeaker apart from conventional offerings. It is also meticulous fine tuning. Every Dynaudio model is fine-tuned in extensive, time-consuming listening tests. Dynaudio even developed its own amplifier, the Arbiter, solely for this task, to ensure that they are not restricted by any one manufacturer’s design. Extraordinary power reserves, a frequency bandwidth at the edge of what is technically possible, the exacting use of absolutely sonically accurate components and circuits, and a unique power supply that remains completely free from mains noise are just a few qualities of Dynaudio’s ultimate amplifier development. The true sound quality of a loudspeaker can be judged using this virtually priceless reference amplifier. After a Dynaudio design has been fine-tuned, it is subjected to the Arbiter. Only after passing this most difficult test is it ensured that the authentic sound quality of a Dynaudio loudspeaker can be experienced – at home or in a studio.
Responsibility
Keeping the customer in focus
Our customers are our actual employers. So "the customer" will always be our primary focus, when we communicate with our suppliers, in sales and in all of our individual departments. Thus, our customers will remain satisfied throughout the process.
Environment
We conduct our business with respect for the environment. Our focus is both internal and external. To us, environment means sorting and recycling as well as taking our social responsibility seriously and looking after each other. Our employees are aware of our environmental policy and act accordingly.
Willingness to change
We are open and positive towards new ideas and initiatives. We constantly question whether we "do things well enough." We're ready to learn and continuously update our skills.
Innovation
Our company will be made up of innovative and inquisitive colleagues. We will be at the cutting edge, using our creative and innovative competences to achieve the best results. We dare to take chances and try new paths. Our management listens to and assesses every improvement proposal.
Cooperation
Our activities must be characterised by a positive tone, respect and happiness. We accept our differences and respect agreements. Together we strive to achieve the goals we have set. We all depend on each individual employee giving his or her best for Dynaudio.
Commitment and trust
We want our company to be characterised by professional pride and commitment. As employees we must possess an understanding of and an interest in the final product. We take responsibility for ensuring that we deliver a product that we can be proud of. Every time. We do not accept indifference or "good enough". We want a holistic understanding and trust that we are all very passionate about our individual tasks.
Quality
We will deliver the best sound and provide our customers with pure sound experiences. In our quality work we employ international standards (TS16949), which ensures very high quality in our processes. We will always strive to create the best processes and results
Dynaudio - The History
Every forward-thinking company also likes to look back on an accomplished past. So do we. Each Dynaudio loudspeaker has been developed to offer the highest level of quality in its class while featuring exquisite finishes.
The first Dynaudio loudspeakers were a revelation when they premiered. True technological innovations were concealed inside the classically shaped, unusually solid real-wood veneer cabinets hand-crafted in Denmark.
These ground-breaking innovations were clearly ahead of their time: Phase and transient response research was a sound-relevant field completely ignored by other manufacturers. Dynaudio’s research verified, against common belief, that a linear frequency response was not the only parameter defining a good loudspeaker. Ideal timing and dynamic characteristics were deemed equally as important by Dynaudio.
In 1977, the company’s P-Series implemented some of these findings, and in the early 1980’s the Dynaudio 80, 100, and 200 models brought the Dynaudio R&D efforts to life. The young company’s early era was crowned in 1983 when a true loudspeaker milestone was born: The Consequence. Available by special request to this day, this no-compromise statement loudspeaker is not only highly respected for its incredible sound quality, it is in fact one of the world’s best-selling high-end loudspeakers ever.
The Dynaudio Compound series was another technical milestone. It featured extraordinary innovations like a second, internal bass driver and an acoustic air flow resistor called a Variovent. Additionally, the finish of the real-wood cabinets, made at Dynaudio’s own cabinet works in Urhoj, Denmark, reached a furniture-grade quality level that was entirely exceptional and rare.
In 1989, Dynaudio presented an extraordinary research project: What could be achieved by integrating only the very best drivers, materials, and components, but in a very small cabinet? The answer was the Special One – the very first truly high-end compact monitor. A similar concept, but incorporating new and more advanced drivers, was behind the development of the legendary Contour 1.3 SE.
It soon became the benchmark for other companies, and even today it remains synonymous with the ideal of a classic high-end stand-mounted speaker. The Contour series was one of the most successful audiophile loudspeaker lines, underscored by the fact that first generation models were sold for over 15 years before the range was updated.
During this same period, one of the first design-oriented high-end loudspeakers was born: the distinctively shaped Dynaudio Facette. Dynaudio entered another new market for the first time in the 90’s: The Audience series models were more affordable, but without any compromises in sound quality. The following two Audience series generations also marked the entry into the realm of Dynaudio sound quality, while representing the pinnacle of value and performance in their class.
At the end of the century, Dynaudio presented the most ambitious, most advanced loudspeaker of the company’s history: The Evidence. Never before had a loudspeaker come this close to musical authenticity. The Evidence was soon widely regarded as the best loudspeaker in the world. Even today, it remains the reference standard for many hi-fi magazines.
A new chapter of the Dynaudio story began in 2002: The innovative Confidence series embodies a new sound architecture, combining the completely new Esotar² driver technology and a distinctive, slim-line design. A special cabinet is also characteristic of the second generation Contour series that followed, as this range employs a resonance-damping, metal-reinforced baffle to provide excellent performance even at the highest volumes. In 2005, Dynaudio introduced today’s most successful range – the Focus series.
It features further improved drive units but has a more classic and traditional yet still contemporary hi-fi loudspeaker shape. The two Dynaudio anniversary models, the highly acclaimed 25th anniversary model introduced in 2002, the Special Twenty-Five, and 2007’s strictly limited Sapphire 30th anniversary version, are a bit more exclusive and rare.
Dynaudio has expanded its model range and technological variety even further with the MC15 Multimedia division loudspeaker and the slender new Excite series, which offers improved compatibility with modern audio and video systems, allowing for a truly high-end listening experience in a wide range of home entertainment systems.
本帖最後由 xerxeshowie 於 2015-5-30 15:46 編輯
oldappletree 發表於 2015-5-30 15:24 static/image/common/back.gif
Dyna 出名小弟都知道，下次音響展一定去聽下係點嘅聲
C hing 有冇聽過比較過跟 Elac 喇叭聲的分別？
Dyna need a very long run-in/burn-in time, I took 6 months !{:6_200:}
New Dyna Speaker Sound Plain !{:6_192:}
For Elac,
I do not like Metal Tweeter & Woofer, may cause ringing problem if not damp enough !,
As what hi fi say: long listening can be very painful !,{:6_200:}
http://www.whathifi.com/elac/bs243/review
But Dyna is as smooth as silk !, can listen for hours & hours, TV, Youtube, anything !{:6_157:}
xerxeshowie 發表於 2015-5-30 15:37 static/image/common/back.gif
Dyna need a very long run-in/burn-in time, I took 6 months !
New Dyna Speaker Sound P ...
Thanks for your sharing and comments; very pinpoint analysis for both brands.
Would pay a visit to enjoy Dyna
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oldappletree 發表於 2015-5-30 16:27 static/image/common/back.gif
Thanks for your sharing and comments; very pinpoint analysis for both brands.
Would pay a visit...
Yes, Dyna{:6_159:}
I am getting famous for posting dyna pics{:6_158:}
xerxeshowie 發表於 2015-5-30 15:37 static/image/common/back.gif
Dyna need a very long run-in/burn-in time, I took 6 months !
New Dyna Speaker Sound P ...
http://m.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=348&t=1601616&p=1
ching, 你貼文真係勁，佩服{:8_387:}
本帖最後由 xerxeshowie 於 2015-5-30 17:59 編輯
MarkMak 發表於 2015-5-30 17:39 static/image/common/back.gif
http://m.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=348&t=1601616&p=1
ching, 你貼文真係勁，佩服...
Yes, Dyna{:6_159:}
丹麥音響公司Dynaudio成立於1977年，專門研發音箱及喇叭。由於造工及品質出色，因此成為Volvo、Volkswagen等汽車音響供應商之一。
xerxeshowie 發表於 2015-5-30 15:29 static/image/common/back.gif
CA 851W is 200W should able to drive little X14 la
You use Dynaudio Contour S1.4, When...
師兄，你職業是做硏究的嗎？你網上research的能力，小弟真心拜服！{:6_136:}
samuelt 發表於 2015-5-30 18:29 static/image/common/back.gif
師兄，你職業是做硏究的嗎？你網上research的能力，小弟真心拜服！...
但他連對Dyna 嘅聽感都只係just copy and paste only {:8_385:}
