買定離手

Andykong

Source: Fiio Facebook
上次聽樣版機有 D 失望，放低部機時只能話要比多 D 時間 Fiio 完成調音工作先可作準，希望 Fiio 不負所望！


Source: http://www.head-fi.org/t/697035/ ... high-end-dap-market
數碼方面雷聲好大，但 somehow 我對 ES9018K2M 唔多放心，因為 ES9018K2M 和 ES9018 是兩碼了既事

最橋的是，Fiio 上個月已 announce 了第一個 production batch 得 2000 部，要到 3 月先有大貨，現在 iBasso 趕部 DX90 出來仲話 3 月面世，呢場龍爭虎鬥大家可以拭目以待了！

如果兩部既聲力都比 X3/DX50 有明顯改善，而推力可以再大小小，咁對好多人 (包括我在耐) 都夠用了，決定因素可能唔係聽聲而是夾唔夾，和實際代用問題了，暫時我比較傾向 X5，因為雙 mircoSD 插，大 D 既 IPS screen，實體鍵操作等都是實際使用上有優勢的設計！如果 DX90 用返 DX50 既 screen 和 UI，咁我真係有 D 保留，個 screen 既 icon 真係細到呢，仲要 touch control 有時真係幾炆架！

By the way, 有無師兄做莊開盤今次 iBasso 會 delay 幾耐？ 3 個月會唔會睇高左佢呢？

斯路

DX90用返同DX50同一個外殼，都唔知係好事定唔好事。好睇還好睇，但係大部少少我覺得都可接受，未知會唔會因為部機細部令到用到既部件有限制呢。容量方面又係一個問題，何解只係內置8GB咁少

我都比較欣賞X5/AK100/AK120等等可以插兩張卡既機，容量上可以少d顧慮。

期待幾時可以試啦。近期出得都算多player，都幾開心

P.S. X5實物比想像中大部呢

Andykong

斯路 發表於 2014-1-5 20:59
DX90用返同DX50同一個外殼，都唔知係好事定唔好事。好睇還好睇，但係大部少少我覺得都可接受，未知會唔會因 ...

這是一個明智的  production 決定, 但我而言這是一個錯誤的決定!  由 1600 加碼到  4000,  客人的要求點會纯睇  sound improvement 啊, 睇見個蚊型  album art 同埋 D 纳米 size 既  control icon 己經唔會肯比四千了!

師兄玩過部X5? 聽感如何?

斯路

個陣比較趕所以只係望左兩眼就走左，識唔到呢。

Andykong

斯路 發表於 2014-1-5 23:12
個陣比較趕所以只係望左兩眼就走左，識唔到呢。

望到都好, 我覺得以  product design 計好過  DX90 好多!

CosmicHolyGhost

Sorry, have to write this in English

I think ibasso just learned from Hifiman to reuse the same casing so to catch up with Fiio schedule. As opposite to Hifiman, the DX50 form factor and design are well received. It makes sense for HM to release 802 because 901 despite its top SQ, it has too many downsides that prevent people to pay for the asking premium price (short battery life when using balance card, brick size, vol control not suitable for C/IEM, some unpleasant QC issues). Also if the SQ difference between 901 and 802 is not significant,  802 is really a killer product. There aren't that many people who listen to classical on the move. If DX90 can maintain that same sound stage of DX50 with higher detail retrieval, it will be very good for me. It is evident if you compare the LO of X3 mod and DX50 using a same amp. As for X5, if it is less dark sounding than X3 this time after employing a different hardware, it will be very interesting too. When X3 hits the bass note, it hits it hard and deep. Also, mid is very good too. It is the little harsh treble that makes it not audiophile grade.
2014 has been very good for portable music lovers so far.

Andykong

CosmicHolyGhost 發表於 2014-1-5 23:39
Sorry, have to write this in English

I think ibasso just learned from Hifiman to reuse the same cas ...

Dear brother, you just EXPLAINED what I had said, from Manufacturer point of view, adopt the DX50 chassis and user interface is a brilliant idea, it will lower down the development cost, speed up the development cycle, and lower down the Bill of Material cost as they can share substantial parts between two products, I am sure the Chassis and Power/Battery circuit added up to a substantial part of DX50/DX90 material cost.

But what about consumer perspective?  Isn't that more important and relevant to us?  I want a bigger screen because the current UI is cramped, the Album Art THUMBNAIL is a joke.  The screen is acceptable for display (字有小小狗牙, 像數不足), but pathetic for touch screen control, the icon are micro-size and my fingers are always too big.  How many times did you scroll through the songs list in a folder and "incidentally"  played a song instead of scrolling? Too small to include a scroll bar?  

Bigger screen is not necessarily a significant drain in battery, technologies are improving and cost is going down, for example, OLED is power saving over LED because they don't need back light. If I were to pay $4K for a DAP, I sure expect more the DX50 can offer.

The March 2014 schedule is a scam to me, I am sure iBasso set that as a TARGET because Fiio promised to ship X5 in large quantity by that time, base on the delay we experienced with DX50, I think 6-8 weeks delays are very likely, and another 2 months for bud fix (similar to DX50 and DX100), so the more realistic timeline for consumer is July 2014

CosmicHolyGhost

Andykong 發表於 2014-1-6 10:53
Dear brother, you just EXPLAINED what I had said, from Manufacturer point of view, adopt the DX50  ...

I respect your opinion about having a bigger screen as an improvement over the DX50. As for me, I am fine with the screen as is because i really rarely look at the screen after an album is selected. I will surf on internet with my phone instead.

Andykong

CosmicHolyGhost 發表於 2014-1-6 11:08
I respect your opinion about having a bigger screen as an improvement over the DX50. As for me, I  ...

The screen serve two purpose, display information which as I said, is adequate, but prefer upgrade when I pay double/triple for a DAP. The bigger problem is touch screen control.  If iBasso go for the touch screen route, they really should aim at a bigger screen to start with, the control icon simply are too small to deal with.

CosmicHolyGhost

Andykong 發表於 2014-1-6 11:15
The screen serve two purpose, display information which as I said, is adequate, but prefer upgrade ...

I agree that the control is not very smooth and a bit sensitive.

I do have my worry about using the same case as it will limit the DX90 to use the Samsung S3 battery again. I am not sure if it will be sufficient for powering two DAC chips and additional Opamps. I hope the SQ will not be penalized because of this limitation.

Think about it, DX100 is really not a bad player!